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Wednesday, 6 April 2005
Postdoc Survey
Topic: Science Workplace
Here's a link to a recent survey of postdoctoral fellows done by the Sigma Xi Society.

The survey's authors claim that institutions that have a "structured postdoc program" produced happier postdocs.

Postdocs were poorly paid (median salary $38000/yr), likely to be foreign (54%) on temporary visas, lacked childcare (26% had access vs. 30% no childcare) and subsidized housing (14% had access vs. 50% did not). 53% of postdocs were dissatisfied with the amount of time they can devote to their families (40% are satisfied). 44% agreed that their work had impacted (I assume negatively) their decision to have a child.

Basically postdocs are highly skilled, highly educated workers that are exploited without much support.

Fortunately despite all this 69% of postdocs were generally satisfied with their postdoctoral experience. Moreover 61% of postdocs would encourage prospective individuals in joining their current lab as a postdoc.

So why is this?

- Academia is a pyramid scheme. There is a huge excess of grad students and postdocs all lured into academia with the promise of professorships. Problem is the jump from postdoc to professorship is steep (about 100 applicants per job). This is because postdocs are cheep. An easy way to solve this? Pay postdocs more.
- There is a "rite of passage" type attitude in academia. Many professors were underpaid unappreciated postdocs and feel that the current crop of postdocs must pass through this as well. This type of self inflicted wound in academia is not helpful.
- Academics generally like their jobs. As a result plenty of people are willing to work for less. Universities and other research institutes exploit this and give postdocs scraps. Postdocs are treated essentially as cheep labour rather than future scientists.Perhaps providing better support (financially and otherwise) would actually improve postdoc productivity and generate better principal investigators.

In summary postdocs are better off now than they were before ... but we have a long way to go before postdocs get what they deserve.

Posted by madscientist39 at 7:10 PM EDT
Updated: Tuesday, 3 May 2005 5:14 PM EDT
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Wednesday, 6 April 2005 - 7:21 PM EDT

Name: The Man

The survey proves that people are wimps to complain. The fact is that this is a job for a select group of people. If you want more time on your hands go work in industry, academia doesn't need you.

Wednesday, 6 April 2005 - 9:37 PM EDT

Name: Monolisa Spice

The guy above sounds like he's a PI (or going to a PI) ready to leech off of poor post docs.

For the number of years they spend training in grad school, $38K is ridiculous. Sounds like they need a union.

Sunday, 10 April 2005 - 2:36 PM EDT

Name: The Man

Actually, I'm just looking at how the system works and I know what the consequence of raising post-doc salaries would be. The problem isn't PIs. The problem is how much the country values science. We are publicly funded. That money is not guaranteed and even maintaining status quo is tenous at best. The reality is at all levels (except maybe grad school - the only paid grad students) academic scientists get screwed. That is just one of the sacrifices we make for our love of science. If you want to change that you need to turn society around. I know that the post-doc years are frustrating financially but they aren't long term and you always have the option of going into industry at any time.

Monday, 11 April 2005 - 12:12 PM EDT

Name: U

The problem is foreigners. When Bush said in his State of the Union address, "It is time for an immigration policy that permits temporary guest workers to fill jobs Americans will not take," he was talking about postdocs, not fruit pickers. Look around you. How many foreigners are there working as postdocs in your lab? Exactly.

What will solve the salary problem for postdocs, is protectionism. If you got rid of all the Canadian, Chinese, and German postdocs, all desperate for any quantity of greenbacks they can get their hot little hands on, then postdoc salaries would skyrocket into the range of $80K. Of course, it would mean the end of science in the United States, but that's another matter altogether.

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